Joaquin Phoenix on Playing Joker + Exclusive Outtake


>>Jimmy: THANK YOU FOR COMING.>>THANKS FOR HAVING ME.>>Jimmy: I SAW JOKER LAST NIGHT AND I’M NOW SCARE OF YOU. I HAVE TO SAY. IT REALLY WAS AN AMAZING, INCREDIBLE PERFORMANCE. ARE YOU PROUD OF IT? ARE YOU AWARE OF HOW GOOD IT IS?>>UM.>>Jimmy: THAT’S A TOUGH QUESTION, RIGHT?>>THAT IS A TOUGH QUESTION.>>Jimmy: YOU LOOK LIKE A JERK IF YOU SAY YES, BUT YOU’RE LYING IF YOU SAY NO.>>A LOT OF PEOPLE DON’T GET IT.>>Jimmy: YOU WERE GREAT. I’LL JUST SAY THAT.>>THANK YOU. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]>>Jimmy: YOU LOOK NOW VERY MUSCULAR. YOU WERE SO SKINNY IN THE MOVIE, AND REALLY LOOKED SICKLY. DID YOU, HOW MUCH WEIGHT DID YOU LOSE FOR THAT?>>OH, I DON’T KNOW.>>Jimmy: A LOT, THOUGH, RIGHT?>>A LITTLE BIT.>>Jimmy: YEAH, A LITTLE BIT. AND IS THAT AS TERRIBLE AS I WOULD IMAGINE IT TO BE? HAVING A FINITE AMOUNT OF TIME AND PEOPLE COUNTING ON YOU TO LOSE WEIGHT FOR A MOVIE?>>IT IS DIFFICULT AT TIMES.>>Jimmy: UH-HUH.>>BUT THEN THERE’S SOMETHING VERY EMPOWERING ABOUT IT AS WELL.>>Jimmy: IS THERE?>>YEAH.>>Jimmy: WHAT?>>YEAH. I THINK JUST HAVING THAT LEVEL OF CONTROL OF YOURSELF. >>Jimmy: UH-HUH.>>IN THE BEGINNING, YOU’RE EXHAUSTED.>>Jimmy: UH-HUH.>>YOU LOOK AT A FLIGHT OF STAIRS AND IT TAKES 30 SECONDS, YOU HAVE TO TALK YOURSELF INTO IT. I CAN DO THIS, I KNOW I CAN DO THIS. BUT THEN ONCE YOU’VE REACHED YOUR TARGET WEIGHT, I DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS. IT’S INCREDIBLE. YOU SUDDENLY FEEL ENERGIZED AND EXCITED.>>Jimmy: MAYBE YOUR STOMACH SHRIVELS UP TO THE SIZE OF A RAISIN AND YOU DON’T WANT ANY MORE FOOD.>>NO, YOU WANT FOOD.>>Jimmy: SOMETIMES I WILL FAST FOR THE DAY AND LOOK AT RECIPES ONLINE. AND I’LL SAY I NEED TO SAVE THAT, I NEED TO MAKE THAT CHEESEBURGER, I GOT TO DO THIS.>>IT’S TOUGH. BECAUSE YOU CAN’T WATCH TV. A COMMERCIAL COMES ON FOR FOOD AND [ BLEEP ].>>Jimmy: YOU START THINKING, I’M GOIN’ TO THE SIZZLER.>>I’M VEGAN. SO I DON’T DO THAT.>>Jimmy: THEY’VE GOT A LOT OF CHICKPEAS.>>YEAH, IT REARS ITS HEAD IN WEIRD WAYS, IN DREAMS.>>Jimmy: DO YOU GO OUT TO DINNER WITH PEOPLE AND DON’T EAT?>>NO, YOU DON’T SOCIALIZE.>>Jimmy: YOU DO NOT SOCIALIZE?>>NO, NOT AT ALL. PEOPLE DON’T REALIZE, OUR ACTIVITIES REVOLVE AROUND FOOD AND DRINK. [ BLEEP ].>>Jimmy: AND EXPLAINING TO THE WAITER, I’M NOT EATING, I’M PART OF A MOVIE, OH, WHAT MOVIE ARE YOU DOING? I’M DOING “JOKER.” AND YOU CAN’T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE MOVIE, RIGHT? IT’S STILL PRETTY SECRET.>>I CAN.>>Jimmy: BUT YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN’T.>>SHOULD WE TEST IT? [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] SEE HOW FAR WE CAN GO?>>Jimmy: THE FUNNY THING IS THESE PEOPLE CHEERING RIGHT NOW WOULD BE THE MADDEST PEOPLE. IF JOAQUIN WERE TO TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENS IN THE MOVIE RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE WOULD WALK OUT OF HERE PISSED >>MAYBE NOT.>>Jimmy: GIVE IT A GO. LET’S SEE WHAT HAPPENS. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]>>THE VERY LAST SCENE. [ LAUGHTER ] NO, WHAT’S FUN ABOUT THIS MOVIE IS IT REALLY KEEPS YOU GUESSING. YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.>>Jimmy: YEAH.>>AND SO I WOULDN’T WANT TO RUIN THAT FOR ANYBODY. LIKE I THINK IT’S FUN. MY SISTERS, MY WHOLE FAMILY CAME TO THE PREMIERE.>>Jimmy: UH-HUH.>>AFTERWARD, WE WENT TO MY PLACE AND MY SISTERS GOT INTO A HEATED DECISION ABOUT WHAT THE MOVIE WAS ABOUT, WHAT IT MEANT. THEY WERE REALLY ENGAGED IN A WAY THAT THEY HAVEN’T BEEN WITH OTHER MOVIES OF MINE. THEY HAVEN’T SEEN MY OTHER MOVIES, BUT — [ LAUGHTER ] BUT THEY WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN AS ENGAGED.>>Jimmy: DO YOU ANSWER ANY OF THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE? OR YOU STAY OUT OF IT.>>NO, IT’S GREAT.>>Jimmy: YOU JUST LIKE TO SEE IT HAPPEN. EVEN THOUGH I HAD NO ROLE IN THE MOVIE, I EXPLAINED IT TO EVERYONE AT WORK. WE HAD A SCREENING AND WE WERE DISCUSSING IT AND I ACT AS IF I AM THE AUTHORITY. I DO HAVE A THEORY ABOUT THE END. I CAN’T SAY BECAUSE IT WOULD RUIN IT, BUT I’LL TELL YOU DURING THE COMMERCIAL BREAK MY THEORY. ARE YOU A MYSTERIOUS MAN, WOULD PEOPLE FIND YOU TO BE MYSTERE US.>>>>WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?>>Jimmy: I FEEL THAT WE DON’T KNOW A TON ABOUT YOU PERSONALLY. IS THAT INTENTIONAL?>>I DON’T KNOW A LOT ABOUT YOU.>>Jimmy: THAT’S JUST BECAUSE YOU DON’T WATCH THE SHOW. MOST PEOPLE TELL ME THEY KNOW FAR TOO MUCH ABOUT ME. THEY WOULD PREFER TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT LESS ABOUT ME. BUT I WOULD ASK YOU A COUPLE OF VERY RANDOM QUESTIONS, OKAY? I THINK THIS WILL BE FUN FOR YOU.>>OKAY, I’M EXCITED.>>Jimmy: OKAY. FIRST MOVIE YOU EVER SAW IN A THEATER?>>I DON’T REMEMBER.>>Jimmy: YOU DON’T REMEMBER? WOW.>>HOLD ON. I GOT IT. IT’S RIGHT THERE, IT’S RIGHT THERE, HOLD ON. NO, I HAVE NO IDEA.>>Jimmy: REALLY? THIS WAS A BAD EXPERIMENT. WHY DON’T WE TAKE A BREAK. AND THIS IS A WEIRD THING TO SAY, MAYBE, BUT YOUR DANCING IN THE MOVIE IS VERY GOOD. YOU’RE GOOD DANCER. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]>>[ BLEEP ].>>Jimmy: TRAINING FOR THE DANCING? OR WAS THAT ALL JUST COMING FROM INSIDE?>>YEAH, THERE WERE TWO SEQUENCES. I WORKED WITH THIS CHOREOGRAPHER NAMED MICHAEL ARNOLD WHO WORKED ON THE SEQUENCE WITH THE STEPS AND THE SEQUENCE WHERE I’M THE CLOWN, WE WORKED ON THOSE, BUT THAT PIECE WAS SOMETHING THAT REALLY WAS A REACTION TO THE SCORE TODD HAD JUST RECEIVED THAT BIT OF SCORE FROM THE COMPOSER. AND WE WERE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THAT SCENE, AND HE STARTED PLAYING ME THAT MUSIC, AND WE JUST DECIDED THAT IT, WE WANTED SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST UM, ILLUSTRATED THIS TRANSFORMATION INTO JOKER THAT WAS NONVERBAL, AND THAT’S WHAT WE CAME UP WITH.>>Jimmy: IS THAT TYPICALLY HOW IT GOES? YOU HAVE THE SCORE BEFORE YOU’RE FINISHED SHOOTING THE FILM?>>NO. I THINK SOMETIMES — I DON’T REALLY KNOW, BUT THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I THINK THAT I’M AWARE OF WHERE I WAS SO INFLUENCED BIT SCORE.>>Jimmy: DID YOU DANCE AS A KID? DO YOU HAVE ANY DANCE BACKGROUND?>>YEAH. I DON’T WANT TO BRAG, BUT, I WAS REALLY GOOD.>>Jimmy: WERE YOU A GOOD DANCER? WERE YOU KNOWN AS A GOOD DANCER?>>NOT NATIONALLY. [ LAUGHTER ]>>SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.>>Jimmy: AMONG YOUR CIRCLE, WHAT KIND OF DANCING DID YOU DO?>>YOU NAME IT.>>Jimmy: REALLY?>>YEAH, BUT I MEAN, PROBABLY MY FORTE WAS BREAK DANCING.>>Jimmy: BREAK DANCING, REALLY? [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] ARE YOU TALKING POPPING AND LOCKING, SPINNING?>>YEAH.>>Jimmy: EVERYTHING? WOULD YOU DO IT OUT ON THE STREET FOR PEOPLE TO SEE?>>SOMETIMES, BUT IT WAS MORE PERSONAL.>>Jimmy: IT WAS?>>YEAH, I LIKE TO KEEP IT FOR MYSELF AS A PERSONAL. SOMETHING INSIDE.>>Jimmy: YOU AND A PIECE OF CARDBOARD IN YOUR ROOM.>>YOU’RE MAKING FUN OF IT, BUT IT WAS SERIOUS FOR ME.>>Jimmy: THIS MOVIE, IS IT A, IT SEEMED GRUELING IN SOME WAYS. JOKER’S LAUGHING A LOT. AND NOT IN A FUN WAY. MORE LIKE IN A ROBERT DE NIRO IN “CAPE FEAR” KIND OF WAY. DID IT JUST SEEM UNPLEASANT TO DO? WAS THAT THE CASE?>>NO.>>Jimmy: YOU HAD FUN MAKING THE MOVIE?>>YEAH. I DID. IT WAS A LIGHT SET, YOU KNOW. TODD, YOU KNOW TODD.>>Jimmy: TODD PHILLIPS IS THE DIRECTOR.>>REALLY FUNNY, AND, YEAH, I FEEL ALMOST GUILTY, BUT WE HAD A REA REALLY GOOD TIME.>>Jimmy: IT’S INTERESTING THAT YOU SAY THAT, BECAUSE TODD SEPTSENT ME AN OUTTAKE REEL. TELL ME WHAT WAS HAPPENING HERE.>>THE CONSTANT WHISPERING, JUST SHUT THE [ BLEEP ] UP. I’M TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING REAL. [ BLEEP ]. [ BLEEP ]. SORRY, [ BLEEP ]. IT’S NOT A BIG DEAL. IT’S NOT A BIG DEAL. YEAH. IT IS. [ BLEEP ]. I KNOW YOU STARTED [ BLEEP ] EVERYTHING, LARRY. [ BLEEP ]. MAKING FUN OF ME. [ BLEEP ]. IT’S NOT EVEN AN INSULT. REALLY? HOW’S THAT A [ BLEEP ]ING INSULT? [ BLEEP ] I CAN’T DO THIS, MAN.>>Jimmy: WHAT HAPPENED THERE. WHO’S LARRY?>>UM. [ LAUGHTER ] UM, YEAH, LARRY IS THE CINEMATOGRAPHER. THIS IS SO EMBARRASSING.>>Jimmy: AND DID HE CALL YOU CHER?>>UH, YEAH. LOOK, SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES MOVIES GET INTENSE, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN A SMALL SPACE AND YOU’RE TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING. SO IT REQUEST FEEL INTENSE, BUT UM, THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PRIVATE.>>Jimmy: YEAH, YEAH.>>I’M A LITTLE EMBARRASSED. I’M, I’M SORRY ABOUT THAT.>>Jimmy: YEAH.>>SORRY YOU GUYS HAD TO SEE THAT. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]>>Jimmy: I BELIEVE LARRY.>>NO, IT’S NOT LARRY’S FAULT.>>Jimmy: IT’S TOTALLY LARRY’S FAULT, AND CHER’S FAULT IN A WAY, YOU KNOW? CHER DOES HAVE SOME OF THE BURDEN TO TAKE FOR THIS.>>SURE. WELL, LET ME THINK ABOUT THIS A BIT MORE.>>Jimmy: OKAY, YOU DO THAT.>>MY PUBLICIST WILL ISSUE A FORMAL STATEMENT TOMORROW.>>Jimmy: OKAY, THAT’S A GOOD IDEA.>>YEAH, CAN WE MOVE ON?>>Jimmy: YEAH, IT’S OVER NOW, SO IF YOU WANT TO GO CALL LARRY, WE CAN DO IT.>>WELL, I SHOULD PROBABLY PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE TO LARRY.>>Jimmy: YEAH, YOU PROBABLY SHOULD.>>LARRY? I’M, THE THING IS, THOUGH, [ LAUGHTER ] I AM SORRY, BUT HE DID WHISPER, LIKE CONSTANTLY WHILE WE’RE TRYING TO WORK. AND SOMETIMES IT’S REALLY HARD TO FIND THE EMOTION THAT YOU’RE AVE AFTER, SO IT WAS WRONG OF ME, BUT HE SHOULDN’T HAVE DONE IT. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]>>Jimmy: JOAQUIN PHOENIX! “JOKER” OPENS IN THEATRES FRIDAY.

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