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>>>HE GETS OUT AND STARTS>>>HE GETS OUT AND STARTS SHOOTING AT US. SHOOTING AT US. MY HUSBAND SAW HIM START MY HUSBAND SAW HIM START SHOOTING AT US. SHOOTING AT US. AND WE GOT ON TO THE MEDIAN. AND WE GOT ON TO THE MEDIAN. WE SAW HIM COMING CLOSER. WE SAW HIM COMING CLOSER. I WAS LOOKING IN A MIRROR, I WAS LOOKING IN A MIRROR, LOOKING BACK. LOOKING BACK. AND I COULD SEE HIM LOADING UP A AND I COULD SEE HIM LOADING UP A GUN. GUN. IT LOOKED LIKE A LONG, BLACK GUN IT LOOKED LIKE A LONG, BLACK GUN THAT I SAW. THAT I SAW. AND I SAW MY HUSBAND. AND I SAW MY HUSBAND. WE NEEDED TO GET OFF THE WE NEEDED TO GET OFF THE INTERSTATE. INTERSTATE. MY HUSBAND GOT ON THE RIGHT SIDE MY HUSBAND GOT ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE MEDIAN. OF THE MEDIAN. WE GOT OFF AND TURNED BACK ON WE GOT OFF AND TURNED BACK ON THE SERVICE ROAD TURNING BACK THE SERVICE ROAD TURNING BACK FROM MIDLAND. FROM MIDLAND. HE SHOT AT US AGAIN WHEN HE HE SHOT AT US AGAIN WHEN HE PASSED US. PASSED US. THANKFULLY HE DIDN’T HIT US OR THANKFULLY HE DIDN’T HIT US OR ANYTHING. ANYTHING.>>THIS IS “UP.”>>THIS IS “UP.” I’M ALISON MORRIS IN FOR DAVID I’M ALISON MORRIS IN FOR DAVID GURA. GURA. AND ODESSA, TEXAS, REELING FROM AND ODESSA, TEXAS, REELING FROM YESTERDAY’S MASS SHOOTING. YESTERDAY’S MASS SHOOTING. ONE OF THE EYEWITNESSES TO THAT ONE OF THE EYEWITNESSES TO THAT SHOOTING BARELY MISSED BEING SHOOTING BARELY MISSED BEING STRUCK BY THE SHOOTER. STRUCK BY THE SHOOTER. WE REACHED OUT TO HER THIS WE REACHED OUT TO HER THIS MORNING AND SHE HAS BEEN MORNING AND SHE HAS BEEN GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO JOIN US NOW GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO JOIN US NOW NOW. NOW. HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY? HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY?>>WELL, I’M PRETTY MUCH A HOT>>WELL, I’M PRETTY MUCH A HOT MESS. MESS.>>WITH GOOD REASON.>>WITH GOOD REASON.>>I’M EMOTIONAL.>>I’M EMOTIONAL. COULD YOU JUST RUN US THROUGH COULD YOU JUST RUN US THROUGH WHAT YOU EXPERIENCED YESTERDAY? WHAT YOU EXPERIENCED YESTERDAY?>>I THOUGHT RUNNING A LITTLE>>I THOUGHT RUNNING A LITTLE ERRAND WITH MY HUSBAND AND MY ERRAND WITH MY HUSBAND AND MY GRANDSON. GRANDSON. WE WERE STOPPED AT A LIGHT. WE WERE STOPPED AT A LIGHT. AS THE LIGHT TURNED GREEN, WE AS THE LIGHT TURNED GREEN, WE WERE — THERE WERE TWO CARS IN WERE — THERE WERE TWO CARS IN FRONT OF ME. FRONT OF ME. WE STARTED TO ROLL FORWARD. WE STARTED TO ROLL FORWARD. AND WE HEARD WHAT TURNED OUT TO AND WE HEARD WHAT TURNED OUT TO BE SHOTS. BE SHOTS. THEY WERE SOUNDS AND DIDN’T MAKE THEY WERE SOUNDS AND DIDN’T MAKE SENSE. SENSE. I ASKED MY HUSBAND IF THE CAR IN I ASKED MY HUSBAND IF THE CAR IN FRONT OF US HAD BACKFIRED OR FRONT OF US HAD BACKFIRED OR SOMETHING. SOMETHING. THEY WERE ODD, OUT OF PLACE. THEY WERE ODD, OUT OF PLACE. I LOOKED TO MY LEFT, I WAS I LOOKED TO MY LEFT, I WAS DRIVING, AND THE MAN — HE WAS DRIVING, AND THE MAN — HE WAS IN THE GOLD SEDAN AT THE TIME. IN THE GOLD SEDAN AT THE TIME.>>OKAY.>>OKAY.>>HE — I LOOKED OVER MY>>HE — I LOOKED OVER MY SHOULDER, AND HE WAS THERE. SHOULDER, AND HE WAS THERE. HE WAS POINTING HIS GUN AT OUR HE WAS POINTING HIS GUN AT OUR VEHICLE, AT MY WINDOW. VEHICLE, AT MY WINDOW. AND I MEAN, HE WAS SO CLOSE TO AND I MEAN, HE WAS SO CLOSE TO ME. ME. I COULD SEE HIM. I COULD SEE HIM. I FREAKED OUT, OBVIOUSLY. I FREAKED OUT, OBVIOUSLY. THERE’S A GUY, HE HAS A GUN. THERE’S A GUY, HE HAS A GUN. AND IT SET IN WHAT THOSE SOUNDS AND IT SET IN WHAT THOSE SOUNDS WERE. WERE. I’M SURE THE FIRST SET OF I’M SURE THE FIRST SET OF WHATEVER HAPPENED WERE AIMED AT WHATEVER HAPPENED WERE AIMED AT US. US. THEN, I JUST STARTED HONKING. THEN, I JUST STARTED HONKING. AND SWERVING TO ONE SIDE TO GET AND SWERVING TO ONE SIDE TO GET AROUND THE TWO CARS IN FRONT OF AROUND THE TWO CARS IN FRONT OF US. US. I DON’T KNOW IF MY HONKING, MAY I DON’T KNOW IF MY HONKING, MAY HAVE STARTLED THE PERSON IN HAVE STARTLED THE PERSON IN FRONT OF ME. FRONT OF ME. SHE MOVED TO THE RIGHT AND I SHE MOVED TO THE RIGHT AND I SHOT THROUGH THE GAP BETWEEN SHOT THROUGH THE GAP BETWEEN THOSE TWO CARS. THOSE TWO CARS. RIGHT AS I DID THAT, THERE WERE RIGHT AS I DID THAT, THERE WERE THREE MORE SHOTS FIRED. THREE MORE SHOTS FIRED. I BELIEVE THEY WERE FIRED AT US. I BELIEVE THEY WERE FIRED AT US. THERE WAS NO PURCHASE. THERE WAS NO PURCHASE. HE HAD JUST COME OFF I-20. HE HAD JUST COME OFF I-20. AND I BELIEVE HE WAS RUNNING, AND I BELIEVE HE WAS RUNNING, OBVIOUSLY, THE SITUATION HE HAD OBVIOUSLY, THE SITUATION HE HAD WITH THE OFFICER ON I-20. WITH THE OFFICER ON I-20. IT WAS RIGHT AT THAT TIME. IT WAS RIGHT AT THAT TIME. WE DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT THAT. WE DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT THAT. AND WE THOUGHT IT WAS A ROAD AND WE THOUGHT IT WAS A ROAD RAGE THING. RAGE THING. AS I AXELCCELERATED BETWEEN THE AS I AXELCCELERATED BETWEEN THE CARS, HE FOLLOWED ME AND WAS CARS, HE FOLLOWED ME AND WAS PULLING UP, AGAIN, TO THE SIDE PULLING UP, AGAIN, TO THE SIDE OF THE BACK PANEL OF MY CAR. OF THE BACK PANEL OF MY CAR. I SAW HIM IN THE MIRROR, I WAS I SAW HIM IN THE MIRROR, I WAS SPEEDING. SPEEDING. I WAS DRIVING EXTREMELY FAST, I WAS DRIVING EXTREMELY FAST, AWAY FROM HIM. AWAY FROM HIM. AND MY ONLY THOUGHT WAS, I HAD AND MY ONLY THOUGHT WAS, I HAD TO GET AWAY FROM HIM. TO GET AWAY FROM HIM. I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ROAD RAGE. I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ROAD RAGE. I DIDN’T UNDERSTAND IT AT THE I DIDN’T UNDERSTAND IT AT THE TIME. TIME. I WAS LOOKING FOR ANY WAY TO GET I WAS LOOKING FOR ANY WAY TO GET AWAY FROM THAT MAN, THAT CAR. AWAY FROM THAT MAN, THAT CAR. AND I TURNED INTO — I CAME TO AND I TURNED INTO — I CAME TO ANOTHER STOPLIGHT. ANOTHER STOPLIGHT. I WAS NOT GOING TO STOP AT THE I WAS NOT GOING TO STOP AT THE STOPLIGHT. STOPLIGHT. I TURNED INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD I TURNED INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I KNEW WOULD GET ME BACK — THAT I KNEW WOULD GET ME BACK — IT WOULDN’T DEAD END AND IT IT WOULDN’T DEAD END AND IT WOULD GET ME AWAY FROM HIM. WOULD GET ME AWAY FROM HIM.>>DID YOU SEE POLICE AS YOU>>DID YOU SEE POLICE AS YOU WERE DRIVING ON THE ROAD? WERE DRIVING ON THE ROAD? I KNOW IT WAS HAPPENING SO I KNOW IT WAS HAPPENING SO QUICKLY. QUICKLY. BUT DID YOU HEAR ANY SIRENS BUT DID YOU HEAR ANY SIRENS TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE TWO TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE TWO CARS AHEAD OF YOU? CARS AHEAD OF YOU?>>NO.>>NO. IT WASN’T UNTIL WE WENT THROUGH IT WASN’T UNTIL WE WENT THROUGH THE LIGHT, UP AND OVER, DOWN THE THE LIGHT, UP AND OVER, DOWN THE OTHER SIDE. OTHER SIDE. AND WE SAW A POLICEMAN THAT WAS AND WE SAW A POLICEMAN THAT WAS TRAVELING SOUTHBOUND THE TRAVELING SOUTHBOUND THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION FROM US. OPPOSITE DIRECTION FROM US. HE WAS TRAVELING. HE WAS TRAVELING. AND I BELIEVE HE WAS RESPONDING AND I BELIEVE HE WAS RESPONDING TO THE OFFICER ON I-20. TO THE OFFICER ON I-20. HE WAS GOING THE OPPOSITE HE WAS GOING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. DIRECTION. HAVE TO TELL YOU, THIS GUY WAS HAVE TO TELL YOU, THIS GUY WAS CRAZY. CRAZY. HIS FACE WAS NOT RIGHT. HIS FACE WAS NOT RIGHT. HIS EYES WERE NOT RIGHT. HIS EYES WERE NOT RIGHT.>>I KNOW YOU FEEL LIKE A HOT>>I KNOW YOU FEEL LIKE A HOT MESS. MESS. YOU DESCRIBED HERSELF AS JUST YOU DESCRIBED HERSELF AS JUST SPEEDING AND HONKING YESTERDAY. SPEEDING AND HONKING YESTERDAY. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU SHOWED IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU SHOWED COMPOSURE AND QUICK THINKING COMPOSURE AND QUICK THINKING WHEN THAT WAS HAPPENING. WHEN THAT WAS HAPPENING. MANY OF OUR VIEWERS HAVE NEVER MANY OF OUR VIEWERS HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED SOMETHING THAT EXPERIENCED SOMETHING THAT TRAUMATIC. TRAUMATIC. CAN YOU DESCRIBE FOR A MOMENT CAN YOU DESCRIBE FOR A MOMENT WHAT IT FEELS LIKE WHEN YOU WHAT IT FEELS LIKE WHEN YOU REALIZE YOU’RE IN THAT KIND OF REALIZE YOU’RE IN THAT KIND OF DANGER AND WHAT TAKES OVER. DANGER AND WHAT TAKES OVER. IS IT ADRENALINE? IS IT ADRENALINE? WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU AT THAT WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU AT THAT MOMENT? MOMENT?>>FOR ME, THAT FIGHT OR FLIGHT>>FOR ME, THAT FIGHT OR FLIGHT THING, THAT THEY TALK ABOUT IN THING, THAT THEY TALK ABOUT IN PSYCHOLOGY PSYCHOLOGY PSYCHOLOGY. PSYCHOLOGY. IN SITUATIONS WHERE I FEEL LIKE IN SITUATIONS WHERE I FEEL LIKE I’M THREATENED, I SUPPOSE, I I’M THREATENED, I SUPPOSE, I HAVE EXTREME CLARITY. HAVE EXTREME CLARITY. I WASHONKING AND SWERVING, I KNE I WASHONKING AND SWERVING, I KNE WHAT I HAD TO DO IN THAT MOMENT. WHAT I HAD TO DO IN THAT MOMENT. AND THEN, AFTER I GOT HOME, AND THEN, AFTER I GOT HOME, AFTER I WAS SAFE AND ASKED MY AFTER I WAS SAFE AND ASKED MY GRANDSON, AWAY FROM HIM, THEN I GRANDSON, AWAY FROM HIM, THEN I BROKE DOWN. BROKE DOWN. RELIVING IT IN MY MIND AND RELIVING IT IN MY MIND AND SEEING THE PERSON IN SOMETHING, SEEING THE PERSON IN SOMETHING, I WAS A TARGET. I WAS A TARGET. I WAS HIS TARGET FOR THAT I WAS HIS TARGET FOR THAT MOMENT. MOMENT. I LIVED. I LIVED.>>I KNOW YOU SAID YOU HAD YOUR>>I KNOW YOU SAID YOU HAD YOUR GRANDSON IN THE CAR. GRANDSON IN THE CAR. HOW OLD IS YOUR GRANDSON? HOW OLD IS YOUR GRANDSON? HE’S 2. HE’S 2.>>HE WAS PROBABLY THINKING,>>HE WAS PROBABLY THINKING, LOOK AT GRANDMA GO. LOOK AT GRANDMA GO.>>I DON’T KNOW.>>I DON’T KNOW. I DON’T — I MEAN, CLEARLY, I DON’T — I MEAN, CLEARLY, PROBABLY FELT THAT THERE WAS PROBABLY FELT THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG. SOMETHING WRONG. HE WAS JUST VERY CALM. HE WAS JUST VERY CALM. HE SAT THERE VERY QUIETLY. HE SAT THERE VERY QUIETLY. HE STOPPED BABBLING. HE STOPPED BABBLING. MY HUSBAND KEPT LOOKING AND MY HUSBAND KEPT LOOKING AND CHECKING ON HIM BECAUSE WE WERE CHECKING ON HIM BECAUSE WE WERE SO WORRIED THAT THE FIRST SHOTS SO WORRIED THAT THE FIRST SHOTS HAD COME FROM BEHIND. HAD COME FROM BEHIND. I MEAN, WE DIDN’T KNOW. I MEAN, WE DIDN’T KNOW. AND THEN AND THEN THE SIDE. THE SIDE. IT WAS CRAZY. IT WAS CRAZY. MY THOUGHTS WERE ALL ABOUT, NOT MY THOUGHTS WERE ALL ABOUT, NOT ME GETTING AWAY, BUT ME GETTING ME GETTING AWAY, BUT ME GETTING MY GRANDSON AWAY FROM THAT MAN. MY GRANDSON AWAY FROM THAT MAN. I WAS — I WAS TERRIFIED. I WAS — I WAS TERRIFIED. IT SOUNDED LIKE WHILE YOU WERE IT SOUNDED LIKE WHILE YOU WERE TERRIFIED, YOU HAD VERY, VERY TERRIFIED, YOU HAD VERY, VERY CLEAR THINKING. CLEAR THINKING. YOUR GRANDSON, EXPERIENCED THAT YOUR GRANDSON, EXPERIENCED THAT CALM COMING FROM YOU. CALM COMING FROM YOU. YOU’RE THINKING, WOW, WHAT IS YOU’RE THINKING, WOW, WHAT IS GRANDMA DOING DRIVEING THAT FAST GRANDMA DOING DRIVEING THAT FAST I KNOW IT’S A TOUGH THING TO I KNOW IT’S A TOUGH THING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY. TALK ABOUT TODAY. AND I CAN’T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR AND I CAN’T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR SHARING YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH US. SHARING YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH US. AND I’M GLAD YOU’RE ALL RIGHT. AND I’M GLAD YOU’RE ALL RIGHT.>>THANK YOU SO MUCH.>>THANK YOU SO MUCH. I’M VERY, VERY LUCKY TODAY.

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